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Once Saved Always Saved? by Resequitur
October 13, 2009, 4:07 pm
Filed under: Soteriology, The Doctrine, The Theology

First of all I want to express how much I have come to hate this phrase. It does not emphasize the power behind our Salvation and what Salvation actually is. I do agree that once one has received genuine Salvation from The Lord God, who authored it, that no force on earth can deny you of it, and my life bears witness of that very truth.

That being said I want to express the problems  with the “Once Saved Always Saved” theology, as it derives from a bad, unbiblical theology known as  “Non-Lordship Salvation” or “Easy believism”.

First of all the underlying logic behind this, is that one can exercise one’s will and  choose to have genuine faith in the Lord, and of course there is an underlying contradiction to this belief to Scripture.  Let us take a look at Scripture here :                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       “The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.”            (1 Corinthians 2:14)

So right here we see that a man dead in sin (As we are described in Ephesians 2:1-5) and does not  accept the things of the Spirit of God. So relative to this verse, how can one make a choice to understand the Spirit of God, when that person is dead spiritually? You cannot decide NOT to be dead once you are dead. This applies Spiritually, you cannot just simply decide to be Spiritually alive. It must be God’s decision. Which we see that he decided before time,if it is to be called time,  (Romans 8:28-30Ephesians 1:4) And for the ones known as the “Red Letterists” (John 6:44)  Which reads (Jesus Speaking) “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up on the last day”. So Christ unpacks two HUGE truths for us right here. Lets look at it :

A) No one can come to Me unless the Father draws him;

This particular sentence is mind blowing. NO ONE can come unless the Father has drawn him. This is perfectly in line with Paul’s teachings in Romans, Ephesians, and 1 Corinthians listed above. So these scriptures do not contradict. We must look at the Scripture that explains a particular subject and use them to interpret others. Scripture interprets Scripture and we have this perfectly in what Jesus teaches and what Paul teaches.

B) and I will raise him up on the last day

This is another HUGE  promise made by Jesus. There have been many a time when reading this text I have glossed over it, which I have been learning now to always read the Scriptures carefully. The same “him” in A) is the “him” in B) . This “him” is the group known as the “Beloved” in 1 and 2 Peter also referred to by Paul as the group know as the Elect. From here we see the ones drawn by the Father are the ones raised up on the last day. Jesus makes that promise. This Group of very many individuals which are greater in number than the stars in the sky  (From every tribe, Tounge, Kind of people, and nation, whether Jew or Gentile) will be raised up on the last day.

So we should come to the conclusion that God chose us, and this is why we have chosen Him. He did not choose us because of something we good we have done, He chose us for the good intention of His will.

This had to be covered before we got to Salvation. We know from all of Scripture (specifically the ones listed above) that Salvation is the complete work of God. The book of Hebrews proclaims this wonderful truth.  Lets look at a couple of verses :

” Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God.” (Hebrews 12:1-3)

The author obviously knew of the weight sin has on a man. Even after putting one’s belief in Christ, the weight of sin can be heavy, but look at the continuation of his thought :  “let us run with endurance that the race that is set before us, looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith”.  So from this we see that Christ has FOUNDED (To establish or set up, especially with provision for continuing existence) our faith. This is harmonious with Ephesians 1:4 and Romans 8:28-30. Not only does He create or author this salvific faith, He PERFECTS it. Again this is harmonious with (John 6:39,44; Romans 8:28-30)  So right here we have the perfection of The Triune God’s perfect salvation, perfect meaning He will save who He has willed to save, The Father entrusts the Son with the ones chosen, and The Son raises them ALL up on the last day.

There is one more thought dealing with man’s responsibility. There is a time between God’s drawing the man to The Son, and the man being glorified by Christ Jesus on the last day:

Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.” (Philippians 2:12-13).

Notice Paul saying “My beloved“. This (as mentioned earlier) is a reference to the invisible church aka the elect, or the ones believing in Christ etc.                                                                 He goes on to say  “as you have always obeyed” He is saying this to signify the nature of those who have believed in Christ. Christ describes us (the Elect)  as “His Sheep” and Himself as “The Sheppard” (John 1o:11) He goes on to says in v. 10 and the latter part of v. 12 that His sheep know his voice and listen to Him, or that His sheep obey Him. This is who Paul is referring to.  So going back to Paul we finish his though out  “work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you , both to will and to work for His good pleasure.” So it is right here we are told to work out the Salvation (given to us by God’s Grace) , then he reminds us that it is GOD who is really working in us through the Holy Spirit. So this really hits it home for man’s responsibility. Having Grace through Faith, we are to WORK this faith out. God give us this power through the Holy Spirit because remember “for it is God who works in you” this part is really important to understand; The reason being that God is using us by His Grace “both to will and to work for His good pleasure”

O the power behind God’s Mighty Grace. These scriptures do not conflict with themselves. They are in Harmony with each other. Through His Word is the Life giving power of Faith. So in this we see that “Once Saved Always Saved” doesn’t really cut it in describing our Perseverance through God’s Grace, and His Grace alone. Not simply just our choice. It is His Grace that is empowering us not only to Choose but to Endure in the Faith He has given us.

Sola Gratia

-Justin






Why I Do Not Believe In Unlimited Atonement by Resequitur
July 17, 2009, 2:51 pm
Filed under: The Issues, The Theology

If you say that Christ died for every human being the same way,  then you have to define the nature of atonement very differently than you would if you believed that Christ died for those who believe.

These are reasons I do not believe in unlimited atonement

  • In one case you would believe that the death of Christ did not save anybody; it only made all men savable. It did not remove God’s Punitive wrath from anyone but instead created a place where people come and find mercy ONLY if they could accomplish the New Birth and bring themselves to faith without God’s irresistible grace.  If Christ died to save all men in the same way, then logically you would have to say that he did not purchase regenerating grace for those who are saved
  • If you believe that Christ died to save all men the same way, then the benefits of the cross cannot include the mercy by which we are brought to faith, because all men would be brought to faith if Christ died for all men the same way. But We Know They Are Not!

If the mercy by which we are brought to faith (irresistible grace) is not part of what Christ purchased on the cross, we are left to save ourselves from:

  1. The hardness of heart
  2. The bondage of sin
  3. blindness of corruption and wrath of God

We need Salvation from all three

A couple more reasons I do not believe in Unlimited Atonement is:

  • In unlimited atonement, it limits the nature and value and effectiveness of atonement JUST so it could be said that it was accomplished even for those who die in unbelief and are condemned
  • In this explanation the atonement is a powerless opportunity for men to save themselves from the terrible plight of depravity.

God Bless



Where The Rubber Meets The Road ( In Reformed Theology Part 2 ) by Resequitur
July 9, 2009, 1:46 am
Filed under: The Doctrine, The Theology

ConflictlogoIn the previous post,  we went over the “T”  in T.U.L.I.P . In this post we are going to move on to the “U”. Which stands for Unconditional Election.

Unconditional Election is the doctrine that holds that God chose those whom he was pleased to bring to a knowledge of himself, not based upon any merit shown by the object of his grace and not based upon foreseen faith, especially a mere decisional faith (Romans 9:11) . God has elected, based solely upon the counsel of his own will, some for glory and others for damnation (Romans 9:1521). He has done this act before the foundations of the world (Ephesians 1:4–8).

This is a quote from Dr. John Piper (a Calvinist Theologian, Author,  and Pastor):

First notice what the point of God’s choosing is in 1 Corinthians 1:27-30.

27 God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise, God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong, 28 God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are, 29 so that no human being might boast in the presence of God.

What this text says very clearly is that God chose particular kinds of people to be in the church. He did not just choose the church and leave its composition to man. He chose foolish individuals and called them into Christ. He chose some weak individuals and called them into Christ. He chose some low and despised individuals and called them into Christ. So that no one might boast in anyone but the Lord.

And then to make this crystal clear he said in verse 30 (literally): “From him [God] you are in Christ Jesus.” Or as the NASB says, “By his doing you are in Christ Jesus.” Or the NIV: “It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus.” In other words, it is just as though Paul knew that someone would come along some day and say that God does not choose who is in Christ, but only chooses Christ and any who put themselves in Christ. So he says, in verses 27-29, that God chose the individuals who would make up the church in Christ. And he says in verse 30 that it is by God’s doing that they are put in Christ.

So from scripture, we should realize that we are Unconditionally Elected fools that should give all Glory and Praise to God for our election. It has nothing to do with what we have done, giving none us any room to boast.   Isaiah was on to something when he penned  Isaiah 64:4-9 (actually when he penned the whole book) . If the best we have for God is a  filthy tampon(yes that is the context being used here) , then conditionally electing us would be out of the question.

Praise be to God alone for sending His Son Jesus Christ to die to be the Elect’s Righteousness.

more from Dr. Piper can be found at www.desiringgod.org



Where The Rubber Meets The Road (In Reformed Theology) Part 1 by Resequitur

This is one of the most difficult topics to discuss with people. All you have to do is say “Predestination” or “Calvinism” and folks will start gnashing their teeth, and ripping their clothes and accusing you of blasphemy.

Okay, maybe that is a little overexaggeration (a little ).

But seriously, no one likes to think they have no control of their lives, or to think themselves as puppets or robots with no choice. Which is totally not the case. But before going into the philosophical detail of what is known as “Calvinism” let’s examine what Calvin’s teachings (which is divided into 5 points aka TULIP) and see where it fits in (if at all) with the Source of Truth, God’s Word, The Bible. For this post we will stick with the “T” in “T.U.L.I.P”

Total Depravity

Total depravity is the word penned to describe  how sin has affected all parts of man. The heart, emotions, will, mind, and body are all affected by sin. We are completely sinful. We are not as sinful as we could be, but we are completely affected by sin.

The doctrine of Total Depravity is derived from scriptures that reveal human character:

  • Man’s heart is evil (Mark 7:21-23)
  • Sick (Jer. 17:9)
  • Man is a slave of sin (Rom. 6:20)
  • He does not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12)
  • He cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14)
  • He is at enmity with God (Eph. 2:15)
  • And, is by nature a child of wrath (Eph. 2:3)

This is the main question we ( referring to the “Calvinist”) have in reading the Scripture provided above:

In light of the scriptures that declare man’s true nature as being utterly lost and incapable, how is it possible for anyone to choose or desire God?

The answer to this question is simply that he CANNOT, Therefore God MUST predestine.

By now some would be strongly opposing the use of the accursed P word. But predestination is In fact biblical. So the option not “Believing” in it is not available  at all. Unless of course you deny the Scriptures as being the inerrant, infallible Word of God. That is a total different story that I am just not going into right now.

Calvinism  maintains that because of our fallen nature we are born again not by our own will but God’s will (John 1:12-13); God grants that we believe (Phil. 1:29); faith is the work of God (John 6:28-29); God appoints people to believe (Acts 13:48); and God predestines (Eph. 1:1-11; Rom. 8:29; 9:9-23).

So there we have it. There are four more points that are going to be covered in other posts. Simply because if your brain is like mine, you need time to soak all of this in. ;) .

To those who just are totally not grasping this, PLEASE do not hesitate to drop me a comment

God BlessConflictlogo




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